Dungeons & Dragons: Vierte Edition

[McArden]

Retrowelle verschlafen?

Kann nicht sein - wenn ich in mein Regal schaue, dann sehe ich da D&D v2, v4; Traveller II; Kult....

Ich bin quasi meine eigene Retrowelle...!

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Erstmal: welcome back - hoffe, alles so geschafft, wie erhofft.

Hm - mal sehen:

Weltherrschaft an mich gerissen? Nein!
Alle Unbeliever zu Manowar bekehrt? Nein!
Weiser geworden? ....verdammt!

Aber wenigstens die Noten passen...



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[Greifenklaue]

Interview auf Gamespy

-> http://uk.gamespy.com/articles/885/885692p1.html

Retrowelle verschlafen?

Kann nicht sein - wenn ich in mein Regal schaue, dann sehe ich da D&D v2, v4; Traveller II; Kult....

Ich bin quasi meine eigene Retrowelle...!

Das Original hilft Dir natürlich nix bei ner Retrowelle...

Alle Unbeliever zu Manowar bekehrt? Nein!

Manowar zu Unbelievern bekehrt? Ja... Aber das wäre wohl eher ein Thema im Metalbereich.

[Argamae]

Das Original hilft Dir natürlich nix bei ner Retrowelle...

Röchtöch!  [23]

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Einige Anmerkungen von James Wyatt zur Anlehnung der 4e an World of Warcraft. (eher humoriger Natur)

"OK, it's time to come clean about this. Yes, it's true—everything you've been reading on the Internet about how 4th Edition D&D is just like World of Warcraft is 100% true. Let me show you, with reference to the actual books, how 4e = WoW.

1. Grinding
In the old days, wilderness travel in D&D usually meant rolling for a random encounter some number of times per day. Now, we've embraced the MMO model and turned wilderness areas—those vast expanses of the D&D world that are neither cities nor dungeons—into areas for grinding, that is, for quickly killing monsters in order to earn XP and treasure. Every wilderness area in D&D is now densely populated with monsters. On your own, apart from your DM and even the rest of the characters in your party, you can now venture into these wilderness areas and fight one monster at a time, quickly amassing XP and getting some phat lewt. (DMG 158 on wilderness adventures, DMG 195 on playing without a DM)

2. New PvP mode
Because every character class is designed to function equally well as part of a group or in solo play (see #1), the game also works great for player-versus-player (PvP) play. If everyone in your group can play but the DM can't make it, you can play in an arena that pits the player characters against each other in friendly competition. A significant component of our organized play events going forward will be team-based PvP events, including both battlegrounds and world-based PvP set in our established campaign worlds. (DMG 195 on playing without a DM, PH 15–16 and DMG 10 on character roles and party-building)

3. Monster aggro
Every monster in the Monster Manual now has a specified aggro radius. When a character comes within that radius, the monster attacks according to an AI built into its stat block. Beyond that radius, monsters are unaware of PCs, and even of fights going on within line of sight. (MM 6 on reading monster stat blocks, DMG 36 on monster readiness and surprise)

4. Gear is everything
Magic items have never been so important to player characters in D&D, particularly once they hit the level cap at level 30. As a result, just about every monster drops items of some sort, determined on a random table after the monster is killed. Often these are junk items that characters can sell to vendors in town, but high rolls on the table can generate magic items—usually below the character's level, but occasionally truly epic gear. Characters can get decent gear by grinding, but the best loot appears only in adventures published by Wizards of the Coast that you play with a DM. To help players deal with all the unwanted magic items they find we've also created an online Auction House where characters can buy the items they want. (DMG 125 on awarding treasure)

5. Fast leveling
Everyone knows that the leveling-up process is just training wheels for the real play experience, or "end-game." Characters should expect to hit 2nd level after their first encounter, and skilled groups combined with sufficient grinding should be able to hit 30th level in about 150 hours of play. If you only play 4 hours a week (n00b), it'll take you the better part of a year, but skilled players can do it in a couple of weeks. Then the fun really starts. At 30th level, you'll be able to play the majority of WotC's published dungeons, which you can play repeatedly until you get the drops of gear you need to optimize your character. (DMG 121 on rate of advancement, DMG 146 on epic play and 147 on end-game)

6. Massively multiplayer
The new assumed setting for D&D is a world that's populated with hundreds of thousands of heroes. Now, when your characters visit the great cities of the world, they'll see more adventurers running around than common folk, and most of the commoners are there only to give quests to the adventurers. Of course, the primary reason to visit these cities is to buy and sell in the auction house and to learn the new powers and feats you get for leveling up. Our dungeons are sprawling sites crawling with adventurers, who organize massive raids into their depths. (DMG 150 on the D&D world and commonplace adventurers, DMG 138 on "super adventure" dungeons)

7. Professions
Crafts and professions have been lifted out of the skill system and put in the limelight where they belong, as a way for characters to earn the money they need to buy the best items at the auction house. While they're grinding through monsters for XP, characters can also improve their profession ranks and find the materials they need to make items using those professions. (DMG 11 on the importance of character professions)

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OK, taking my tongue out of my cheek now, I have to close with the way I like to think about the relationship between D&D and games like World of Warcraft. When I play WoW, it's like looking in a mirror. Fantasy MMOs were clearly created and crafted by people who love D&D and tried to replicate some of the experience of playing D&D in a very different environment. Sometimes, the ways they mimic D&D are instructive to me: There are benefits to defining and naming character roles. Quests are a great way to think about story rewards, the mechanical framework for adventure story. There's nothing foreign to D&D in those things (everyone knows that an adventuring party needs a fighter, cleric, thief, and magic-user!), they're just examples of things that MMOs have borrowed from D&D and expressed in good ways. No harm in us borrowing them back.

Fortunately, D&D is still the tabletop roleplaying game we all know and love. As much as I have sometimes enjoyed storyless, combat-focused, DM-less lunchtime games, they'll never replace the real D&D experience, which is far richer than any online, computer-run game will ever be.
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James Wyatt
D&D Story Team Lead
Wizards of the Coast "

-> http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1044100

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DnD 4th komplett als eBook

-> http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4news/20080709

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Erste Hinweise wie einzelne Begriffe übersetztwerden, gibt es beim deutschen DnD-Gamesday-Abenteuer.

-> http://22568.rapidforum.com/topic=101081872872 (#62)

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Kleine Übersicht, wer nun was plant (vor der Ankündigung der GSL-Überarbeitung). [Hier]

* Necromancer Games: Staying OGL/Pathfinder. (A big shame, since the head of the company is very pro-4e and had some good stuff planned. Also, their front page still says they are going 4e.)
   * Goodman Games: Using the OGL to produce 4e material for GenCon, then signing the GSL for the October date.
   * Kenzer & Co: Producing 4e material through fair use copyright, not signing GSL.
   * Paizo: Making Pathfinder, of course.
   * Green Ronin: Not signing GSL, going all OGL, likely to focus on its own OGL systems.
   * Adamant Entertainment: Producing 4e material through fair use copyright.
   * The Inner Circle: Signed the GSL.
   * Mongoose Publishing: Signed the GSL for at least one game line. Probably will produce other OGL content through other game lines.
   * RedBrick Limited: Signed the GSL (making Earthdawn 4e.)
   * Open Design: Patron adventures yes for 4e, Kobold Quarterly no.
   * Paradigm Concepts: Not signing GSL, producing OGL products.
   * Expeditious Retreat Press: Signing the GSL for one game line, producing other OGL products

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Interessanter Blog-Eintrag zu DnD 4te.

-> http://georgiosp.blogspot.com/2008/09/d-nur-die-regeln-funktioniert-nicht.html

Er versucht aufzuzeigen, warum DnD mancherorts nicht als RP funktioniert, Doms Kommentar trifft dann allerdings die Faust auf`s Auge.

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Der Barbar in der 4e-Version:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drfe/20081006

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Interessante Beobachtungen bei Wilde Lande zu DnD 4te.

-> http://blog.wildelande.de/index.php?/archives/150-Was-haben-eigentlich-alle-ploetzlich-mit-DD4.html

"Durch den Zerrspiegel des Internets betrachtet finde ich es doch ziemlich auffällig, das ausgerechnet D&D4 von vielen, die vorher mit regellastigem Spiel, Taktik, Bodenplänen und Miniaturen so gar nichts am Hut hatten, zum Anlass genommen wird, damit anzufangen."

"Mein persönlicher Eindruck war ja, dass das Spiel sehr ,,meta" ist, mit Healing Surges, Daily Powers, Buffs und Debuffs"

Ist echt interessant!

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Ranger in 4e:

The Ranger

"Keeping a pet lets me bring the wild with me wherever I go. I like it. Keeps me warm inside. Oh, and the wild packs one hell of a bite."

Rangers are people of the wild frontier. They are bold wanderers who face the dangers that keep common folk living within walled cities and traveling along well-used roads. Every ranger is also a killer who uses terrain, keen senses, and hunt-honed strikes to end threats quickly. Where rangers differ is in their execution.

Blade and bow are typical ranger tools, but a few rangers forge a deeper alliance with the wilderness. Such a ranger calls a beast as a friend and a weapon. The affinity for a beast might grow from one of many roots. Legend speaks of those raised among wild animals, as well as of those with a supernatural affinity for wild creatures. For enigmatic reasons, Melora blesses a few with such a connection to animals. More often, however, a young would-be ranger befriends a beast or raises it from pup to warrior.

This chapter presents and supports such rangers. It also provides other sorts of rangers with ways to shape their capabilities. In it, you'll find the following:

   * New Ranger Build: The beastmaster ranger build lets you bring to life the fantasy archetype of hero and pet as a fighting unit.

   * New Class Feature: Every beastmaster needs, well, a beast to master, and that's what the Beast Mastery class feature is all about. You can choose a beast companion from one of eight categories designed to fit the style of your character.

   * New Ranger Powers: With a specialized build such as the beastmaster, a whole new assortment of exploits is required. Rangers who favor the blade or the bow have new power options in this chapter, too.


   * New Paragon Paths: Focus your training in one of a dozen ways, even shoring up quirky ranger techniques such as throwing or using a crossbow. Focus on slaying a particular sort of enemy, absorb the magic of the lands you walk, or run with the pack.

Mehr dazu im DnD-Gate: http://forum.dnd-gate.de/index.php/topic,20831.0.html

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DnD im Powercreep?

-> http://rollenspiel.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/dd-4-auf-dem-weg-zur-demontage/

[Argamae]

DnD im Powercreep?

Naja, mal ehrlich: was hast Du erwartet? Selbstverständlich wird es wieder ein(en) "Powercreep" geben - oder hat jemand wirklich geglaubt, mit 4E wird nun alles übersichtlicher und weniger über etliche Zusatzbücher zerstückelt? Ich denke, jetzt geht's erst richtig los. Das neue "Power"-Format für Charakterklassen hat doch gleich das "Melk-mich-bis-ich-umfalle"-Feature mit eingebaut.
Warte erstmal ab, bis neue "Power Sources" erschlossen werden - nicht umsonst steht auf dem "Player's Handbook" der Untertitel "Arcane, Divine, and Martial Heroes". Psionics werden wiederkehren, da bin ich ganz sicher. Und bestimmt noch so einiges mehr. Der Masse an somit neu ins Leben zu rufenden Powers sind wohl keine Grenzen gesetzt...

[Greifenklaue]

Na, ich mag es doch nur DnD 4te-Lästereien zu verlinken...

Selbstverständlich glaub ich an ein Powercreep, während die 4e-Fanbois das weiterhin weeeeeeeit von sich weisen. Aber es sind schon zwei "e" weniger geworden  [15]

[Argamae]

Na, ich mag es doch nur DnD 4te-Lästereien zu verlinken...

Ich weiß!  [25]

Selbstverständlich glaub ich an ein Powercreep, während die 4e-Fanbois das weiterhin weeeeeeeit von sich weisen. Aber es sind schon zwei "e" weniger geworden  [15]

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Wie naiv muß man sein, wenn man das ernsthaft angenommen hat?!?  [22]